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Saturday, December 06, 2008

Installing linux on the Acer Extensa 4630Z

Up front - if you haven't purchased this laptop yet, then stop now and look for a different brand. The Acer Extensa 4630Z has a great webcam, but will take you through hell when you try to install linux on it.

My tests were with Fedora Core 9, because that's all that I had with me. I may have had better luck with FC10 or Ubuntu, but I do not have those CDs with me, and I have a really slow network connection, so downloading it is not an option.

If you've already bought this laptop, then this post will probably help you out with finding some of the drivers.

First off, the keyboard has some extra keys for the Euro and dollar. These are just above the cursor keys, but I haven't yet figured out the keyboard layout to use them, so forget about that.

The trackpad is standard, but you cannot tap on it - at least the default driver on Fedora won't let you. I tried adding a section to my xorg.conf for the touchpad, but that only slowed it down a lot.

Now the problems.

The laptop has two switches - one for the bluetooth antenna and one for the wifi antenna. The bluetooth switch directly controls the bluetooth antenna, but the wifi switch is just a simple key that triggers an event and it is up to the wifi driver to deal with that. It took me a while to figure this out, since the driver for the wifi card isn't installed by default on FC9. I spent a lot of time playing with acerhk to enable the card, but I guess that isn't needed. If you do use acerhk though, the series id is 3000.

The wifi card has the Atheros AR5B91 chipset. This is chipset isn't listed on the Atheros website or the various linux driver pages, don't be confused by that. The device ID shown by lspci -nn ends with 002a.

This card works with the ath5k driver, and on FC9, you'll have to get that from the linux wireless driver page. Just get the whole tarball and build it locally.

Before you can do that, you'll first need to yum install make, gcc, kernel-headers and kernel-devel.

Do not use the madwifi driver - it does not work with this card.

The ethernet card is a Broadcom card, and works well with the default driver, nothing much to worry about here.

However, I had problems getting dhclient to get a DHCP IP for both cards simultaneously. I think this is a quirk with Fedora, because I've done it successfully with Ubuntu on a Thinkpad. If you want to connect to wireless, and you already have dhclient running, you have to first disconnect from wired, and kill the dhclient process. I found this very stupid and frustrating.

The next thing that did not work was the microphone. There is a built in mic right next to the web cam. Your volume control sees this as Mic. There is another device called Front Mic, which is actually a mic that you plug in to the microphone jack in the front of the laptop.

Installing all the PulseAudio tools helps.

This does not help with Skype though, and the audio quality is very bad. I don't know if this is a property of the system, or with skype, but basically I was getting clicks, scratches and a lot of static with skype - even after setting the audio output devices in Skype to Pulse.

Anyway, the wireless problems did not end there. I managed to get the wifi card detected, and could connect to an unsecured network, but as soon as I tried to connect to a secure network, it failed. It failed with both WEP and WPA, and I have no idea how to debug or fix that.

I now have only one day left to get this box working 100%, so will try with Ubuntu tomorrow if I can get the CD from someone. Will update this post when I'm done.

Update: The Ubuntu story

After my trials with Fedora, I moved to Ubuntu. Got an 8.10 CD, but it appeared to be corrupt (tested on three different drives). Then got an 8.04 CD that worked.

The first problem was when starting the live CD. It correctly detects that it needs the intel display driver, but the driver itself is broken. I had the same problem with my Thinkpad - the screen is garbled once xorg starts up. I had to boot up in Save Graphics Mode (Press F4 at the grub menu), which uses the vesa driver.

The vesa driver only goes up to 1024x768, which looks weird on a widescreen, but it lets you get things started.

I went through the install procedure, which worked without problem. Followed the same instructions as above for getting the ath5k driver, except that this time it set up the ath9k driver. NetworkManager still wouldn't connect to a WPA protected wireless network, but after reading up online, I decided to try wicd, and it worked out of the box.

I then downloaded Skype and tried it out, but had very bad luck. The microphone wouldn't work, and skype crashed when I tried to use the webcam. This was much worse than Fedora. I tried the whole pulseaudio setup, but that didn't help.

I then upgraded the kernel to the latest, but still had no luck.

Finally I started looking for an updated video driver. I found melchiorre's weblog where he has a deb for the intel driver.

I first tried to get this driver using apt hoping for a newer release, but there wasn't anything, so I downloaded the deb from the blog, and installed it.

This worked in the broad sense. I could start up in graphical mode and use 1280x800 resolution - which is good for a 14" wide screen. The only problem is that the mouse pointer kept getting garbled every few seconds. It would reset to normal if I moused over anything that changed the pointer, but within a second or two it was garbled again.

This made it very confusing to determine where the pointer was (it was just a large square with a series of black dashes all over the place), so I switched back to vesa and decided to tolerate 1024x768.

The system was now in a state where it was usable as an internet browsing box, but Skype not working was a big problem, because everyone that my dad needs to communicate with is on Skype (which meant that Ekiga wasn't an option).

The Windows story

Just for completeness, I should mention the situation with Windows XP:

Windows does not detect the wireless card or the display card, so it runs in vesa mode at 1024x768, and there's no network. The only advantage with windows is that anyone in the world can fix it, so my absence won't be the bottleneck when this box breaks (and it will).

The final story

So, in the end, I've decided to leave Windows on half the drive - this will be the part that all service engineers can 'fix' when things break.

The rest of the drive I've split between Fedora 9 and Ubuntu 8.04 - I wish I could have more recent versions, but I'm not that lucky. I'll set Fedora as the default system, and get the wireless network working there, and use OpenOffice from the Ubuntu partition. At some point I might switch the default to Ubuntu once I figure out what works better with this hardware.

Update: 8.10

I finally managed to upgrade the box to Ubuntu 8.10. I had to do a remote upgrade, since I'm now half way around the world from the box. The upgrade is pretty easy. Just follow the upgrade instructions listed on the ubuntu site. You need to go through the section titled "Network upgrade for ubuntu servers".

The upgrade took almost two days to complete because the network was really slow, and it required me to hit "y" a few times, so it could not be automated (the do-release-upgrade script does not accept a -y flag), but other than that, it was really smooth.

Note: If the upgrade terminates partway, you need to resume it within a day. The first time it failed, I resumed after three days, and it restarted from scratch. The second time it failed, I resumed after 6 hours, and it continued from where it had left off.

The only problem with doing a remote upgrade is that I could not easily test a few things. For starters, I did not know if gnome was working correctly, however, this can be tested remotely. ssh to the box, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Look for errors (anything starting with (EE)). When I checked this, I found errors saying that there were no usable screen configurations.

I also found that /etc/X11/xorg.conf had been replaced by the upgrade. Restoring it from the original did not help, so I replaced the vesa driver with the intel driver (the one that Fedora worked with), and tried again:
   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
This time it worked, and I confirmed with my dad on the other end that the track pad was working as expected.

The other things I could not test were the webcam, microphone and speakers, but I got my dad to test all three using Skype, and we had a successful VoIP chat - no crashes.

This system is now in a fully working condition.

Thanks for all the comments so far, they definitely helped me push on.


December 07, 2008 7:23 PM

I have also purchased the Acer Extenza 4630z. I installed Ubuntu. Wifi, Mic, and Audio all worked out of the box. I need to test skype however. Seems like ubuntu is the ideal distro for this system.

December 08, 2008 12:26 AM

@Oly: Which version of Ubuntu did you get? I've set up 8.04, and the mic and wifi aren't working. Trying a kernel upgrade right now.

December 23, 2008 3:39 AM

Ubuntu 8.10

The only problem I have had is the vesa card defaulting to 1024x768, which I am in the process of fixing now.

December 23, 2008 3:55 AM

You can try getting the intel driver from a fedora distribution - that seems to work well at a much higher resolution, with acceleration.

January 05, 2009 10:44 AM

Oh thank you, all you commenters and the original poster. I've been using Wubi on my laptop, wondering why my Ubuntu install CD just will not install on my laptop, then I realized its because Wubi is 8.10 and my install CD is 8.04 LTS, there's more support then in the new one it seems.

I had to have a very obscure and barely supported laptop, didn't I?

February 02, 2009 3:44 PM

I've also tried ubuntu 8.10 and my wireless works but extremely slow (i have a 16mb/s line and it only downloads at 60kb/s max) and often kicks out. everything else seems to work for me out of the box. I did the install within windows if that helps anyone.

July 02, 2009 11:10 AM

Hi everyone...Can anyone pls help me tell how to install Windows XP in this Acer Extensa 4630z??? I couldn't find the exact way of installing...

July 02, 2009 3:48 PM

For all your windows questions, contact Microsoft, or switch to Linux.

July 25, 2009 5:56 PM

I installed Fedora 11 64 bits on a Acer Extensa 4420 and:
- The Wireless driver for Linux I downloaded from Broadcom web site.
- I could not make the bluetooth to work.
- Everything else works fine, including the SD reader.

November 28, 2009 1:10 PM

Try PClinuxOS on it. Everything worked right out of the box for me with my Extensa 4630Z.

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